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EPA says Hyundai & Kia overstated gas mileage

GasBuddy Blog -- The AP is reporting that Hyundai and Kia overstated the gas mileage on most of their models from the past three years in an embarrassing blunder that could bring sanctions from the U.S. government and millions of dollars in payments to car owners.

To be perfectly candid, I'm one of those car owners who've been duped. When my wife & I saw highway mileage at "40 mpg" that's one of the key reasons why we bought our Hyundai Elantra.

Because of the inflated mileage, discovered during an audit by the Environmental Protection Agency, the Korean automakers must retrofit the window stickers on the cars, reducing their fuel economy figures by one-to-six miles per gallon depending on the model, the agency said.

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Submitted Nov 07, 2012 By: PD

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rkfrancis Rookie Author New Jersey Posts:3 Points:363,060 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Nov 9, 2012 8:28:36 AM Ignore rkfrancis Report Abuse Hyundai was sued about this before. I have a 2001. I know because I have parts warranted by them because of this. Obviously they didn't learn anything. They said it was because of "procedural errors" but I find that hard to believe because Kia also did the same thing. EPA mileage ratings are usually a shot in the dark anyway.
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